With nedavneshney change of generations VW Touareg finally lost reduction stage in the transfer case, but for the Land Rover Discovery «razdatki" without shift stage until the novelty. But, Indeed, do not "ponizhaykoy" a single live these big SUV with the longitudinal powertrain assembly, that many have been slow to be attributed to an endangered species… And what else they have to offer their owners?
For two years, as some of my "off-road" acquaintances have asked me about the "Disco" fifth generation, and every time I say: To make the "Disco" fifth generation, We need first few years poprodavat Discovery fourth generation, and before that - to remove from the production of the third generation model. That's how confused all this figure 5! BUT, by the way, where is she? More since the first test drive today's model in the US (the case was last spring in America, where we were given had a good climb on the rocky areas), ingrained in me the idea, must necessarily be like in the title number 5 - but no! was Discovery 3, Discovery was 4 - both iteration refers to the second generation model, а Discovery 5, как выяснилось, did not have. I raised all releases, correspondence with the consulate - no. I even made a formal request. It turned, from digital signage in the title Discovery refused even to the last restyling of the past, i.e, second generation. So if someone else along with me saw the number "5", know - dreamed.
test car cost
Land Rover Discovery HSE 3,0 V6 SC (petrol) 8AT (ZF 8HP45)
5 705 200 rubles
Well, God be with them, with numbers, here is more important, Disco that was alive in principle: only move onto an aluminum platform - overall a Range Rover and Range Rover Sport, allowed to keep it in production programmke. For lovers of off-road adventure vehicle is very expensive, too technically complex, with a very expensive service, and for "glyantsevikov" — in front of, enough luxury. And that it can be remotely controlled seating, so that at this time the people will not take.
Actually, Discovery of the current position in the "Table of values" fans of the brand clearly reflect the sad sale Disco: almost all markets it goes worse their full-sized counterparts luxury Range Rover / Range Rover Sport. In Russia, between the models - the gulf, despite the fact that Discovery is sold worse all its competitors, while being one of the most "passable" car market - a phenomenon not Do?
We Touareg - like conflicts in life, true, unfolded in a different way. With the Teramont / Atlas - such as size, but lightweight, projected onto the passenger "wagon» MQB and, the most important thing, more than a cheap and easy, Touareg somewhat faded charm, especially given the fact, that in the 3 rd generation of engineers permanently deprived of his reduction stage in "razdatke". Логично, that Teramont / Atlas of Europe is not allowed: significant concerns in the development of internal cannibalism - the way, in the US with the launch of the new Atlas Touareg has no place. So that's great, we and the Chinese will get more.
diesel fuel pour!
Americans, of course, people neprytyazatelnыe, that with their take - whether our business! In August - the second month of shipments to dealers - extraordinary Touareg soared: Sales 392 cars, of which only 19 were petrol, other versions - in the languid fuel. Quite possible, this proportion is slightly leveled in the future, at least, Second-generation Touareg this year we have sold at a ratio of 2:1 in favor of diesels. New Tuareg until imported from Bratislava, but it is entirely possible, will soon begin to collect in Kaluga otvortochnym way, as its predecessor.
I will not hide, largely unprecedented Touareg I perceived through the prism of Volkswagen Teramont, that we had to test drive in late spring, and the comparison is not expected to last. Teramont - it is such a booming uncomfortable hangar lower category, which can carry the roof of a gust of wind, unprecedented Touareg - luxury apartment, where storms and not creepy. Generally, known sybarite Naf-Naf - the most intelligent of the 3 pigs - certainly would have opted for the Touareg, while his brothers would be content with windy Teramontom. This association is not "static" - it is in motion as her hands became visible all the difference in the machines: and maneuverability, and comfort, and in the range of opportunities, that gets the driver.
test car cost
VW Touareg R-Line 3,0 V6 CVMD (diesel) 8AT (ZF QA8D5019)
5 421 000 rubles
If the associate Touareg handling c classmates (to size, rather than by the presence of the premium status), I will take the liberty to say, that is separated from the BMW X5 is not so far away that the "people" of the previous (third) поколения. Yes, lacks sharpness reactions and precision when cornering, but Touareg - it's not just about driving pleasure, He - for all passengers. Yes, it is softer (but not to the looseness), than X5, but at the same time and more comfortable, with a superior smoothness, которая, by the way, not accompanied by a buildup. conversely: omnivorous suspension eliminates virtually all the information about the road roughness, ranging from small potholes in the pavement and ending with single obstacles, while the body remains steadfast.
"Premium" Harmonies Tuareg classmates seemed to me no accident. The fact, that for a test drive, we got the most that neither is stranded equipment R-Line (from 5,4 million rubles.) with "pneuma" and stabilizers lateral resistance variable stiffness. At the turn of electromechanical actuators dramatically enhance curl resistance, partially compensating roll, but, if necessary, have the ability to completely separate the two parts of the stabilizer bar for more comfortable operation. On the controllability and maneuverability of play and the rear wheels of the new Touareg, which speed up 37 km / h are rotated in the direction, the opposite front, but above this speed - in the same direction, as the front. Interesting, that sports car (eg, the new Cayenne) above this threshold, despite the fact that the smaller radius bends they overcome at higher speed. Actually, just at the crossover Porsche and borrowed all this miraculous mechanics. Более того, Touareg — so far the only "folks", to whom it is generally considered. Not surprising, he rides on asphalt rasprekrasno.
LR Discovery Box
The transfer case - reduction stage 2,93 (not available in all versions), center differential - Planetary, free, rassredotachivaniem with traction 50:50. Interaxle and rear differentials locked friction clutches electrically controlled if necessary.
clear, that for electronics, control chassis Touareg, more critical modes must become bends, in which the machine: A - runs across the high-speed line in 37 kmh, B - runs into one of the steered wheels on a single obstacle. the car is not created during our test drive we have such a criterion, however little it sent on errands in the fields, but more on that a bit later.
on a continent!
Land Rover Disco are imported to us from Solihull, but will soon be translated into an SUV assembly plant in Slovakia, while the "island" under the enterprise reformat release electrified models. clear, that about any "Screwdrivers" (or about something more) in our country is not talking, despite the fact that, back in January in an interview to our edition CEO of Jaguar Land Rover in Russia Vyacheslav Kuzyakov reported, that the subject of the global management of the office from time to time, brings to the agenda of the day or.
In contrast, the German counterpart of its own Discovery is enough rolls, Sleeping driver being — at least the last, when the box is operating in D. Disposition relationship between the rotation of the steering wheel and steered wheels - very stretched, but not blurred. Something similar to the behavior of the first generation Volvo XC90, despite the fact that this association is still somewhat tight, so that substantially sharper steering Discovery. By becoming - and a set of speakers in the basic mode.
by the way, our test copy under the hood revealed "the legacy of the tsarist regime" in the form of a 3.0-liter V6 (AJ126). this engine, Produced by Ford Motor Company, It is equipped with a compressor driven by the same crankshaft. According to the approved vehicle type machine can consume quite so low-octane gasoline, which is typical for the "Yankees", However, the Russian owners strongly recommend dope is not lower than 95 octane.
"City" consumption, especially for sluggish traffic jams, somewhat depressing, occasionally even want to rub my eyes - on-board computer can show and 22 L / 100 km, and 25. Generally, srednegorodskoy index — on quite sane for petrol cars such class level: 17 литров. By itself, add extravagance and "screws" from Eaton, that "hammer" constantly, and traditional high mass for Disco. clear, that today's "Disco" — it is not a steel box on the frame, and duralumin bearing structure, however, this does not explain the difference between the subjects in the two hundredweight: Tuarega body more than half of the metal, and only the rest of the — duralumin.
I recall about their own first impressions on the new Discovery - I did not feel, that run ultra duralumin machine, in which a number of relatives and Range Rover, and the same Jaguar F-Pace. clear, that in some way conservatism "Disco" - a man-made thing, intentionally-created, and compressor motor combined with it very harmoniously. By the way, when road conditions become less tense, motor stops immoderately "drink stress", and gorjuchki consumption drops to 13-14 L / 100 km. clear, that the nature of the engine is not prone to saving, but his life, may well be, will be more, than the newfangled "Dutikow".
Gearbox VW Touareg
The transfer box - limited slip differential friction oversized, formed by planetary scheme, with helical gear teeth. In the free state to provide torque ratio rassredotachivanie 40:60 in favor of the rear wheels. In the past the locked state by allowing the front wheels to realize 70% thrust, through the back - up 85%.
Meanwhile,, moving the selector box in sport mode, driver "Disco" is easy to detect, that the motor is ready for sprint jerks in a very wide range of speeds, with the ability to slow down the steps at the petrol "British" is not an example of wider, than that of diesel, "German". let us say, with the second to the first jumps already at the Disco 80 kmh, while the Touareg - at about 65 kmh. Another thing, that VW provides a truly premium range of options on the powertrain control, will not only spur the car in "sport" mode, but almost completely control the process of the gear change in a manual (letter M). truth, brutal action in the absence of electronics at the first capacity needs of the power unit M in the more comfortable S. by the way, in M mode, traction control, even very brusquely set: eg, by simply resetting the gas washer decelerates the preparatory jerk, which is not observed in the D, any S. In this sense, to pull the driver selector Touareg, generally, и не необходимо.
Despite the outstanding traction ability of the German diesel engine and early "shelf", during city driving a car still has to often spurs, In this sense, diesel fuel consumption is also not a "passenger" — 15 L / 100 km: that is what must qualify the holder. But once the car is on the track, appetite falls at least twice: and 8 литров, and 7 for Tuareg neuvyazka not - here, sure, it all depends on the chosen mode of motion and loss of aerodynamics.
Compare models of interior finishing, technology and performance there is no need - they are representatives of the two worlds. Touareg is about two higher, but when it comes to ergonomics and comfort, the vessels begin to communicate, and the water level is leveled, though for some positions "Teuton" well ahead of rival — let us say, shaped seating with classic adjustable headrest for VW in the longitudinal direction. But here's the exterior mirrors in the Tuareg might be more, step on the driver's door is difficult to use as the stays, and the central armrest is formed, to my taste, very low. On the other hand, may well be, that the tall man, sitting on the driver's seat cushion and seat down, will feel more comfortable. The same Tuareg lumbar support in spite of the fact that regulated in two directions, but it still spectra could be extensive.
Land Rover Discovery and the Volkswagen Touareg
Designers have provided in the Tuareg a good lever folding rear seatback, but to secure the folded backrest, it is necessary to strongly press the top. Besides, for some reason then not formed flat area. All this does not in any comparison does not go with the electromechanical control system in armchairs Disco, allowing autonomously manage separately each seat, and even giving rovnenko site - even mattresses are laid out for the night.
Land Rover Discovery and the Volkswagen Touareg
As for cross-country, the Touareg upset me this part is not in the fields, but on a very ordinary parking in my yard. On the other side, where it borders with playground, builders have made high border around 20 cm. so here, when I started to put the car in front perpendicular to the curb, he heard, as a front parking aid squealed. What is - I'm behind the car before I picked up the most, By setting "pneuma" selector to "2", i.e, into the highest position, when between the road and the body should be 285 mm. How to Alas, it turned, that the side of the bumper section for the sake of design ideas bit lowered, so eat off from the lumen of a few centimeters. Discovery, I am in the same situation, It did not become flustered and does not notice the curb, despite the fact that he is formally clearance even less - 283 mm.
Generally, off-road characteristics should be checked, sure, not in town - for that we went in the suburban field, conditions do not include a step-down level in the Disco, whom the Tuareg, we uttered, in the third generation no. The Travel Primers "Teuton" immediately began to give way "Englishman" in the Ride, especially with increasing speed. Yet there, that his suspension is designed to provide greater "urban" comfort and pinpoint maneuverability on asphalt, than jumping from tussock to tussock.
Finally, by high steep hill, which does not take the course - access to it has been zigzagging and bumpy - we have to drive on alternate machines upstairs. Here and identify key Disco superiority - large mutual moves wheels. There, where Land Rover, imposingly swaying from side to side and pushing off the ground, passing the problem areas, VW posted a wheel and with a scratch - literally and figuratively (fire simulation system locking differentials mezhdukolesnyh) overcome obstacles. Then we quickly found out, that an increase in the complexity of the importance of the rise of Disco is becoming more and more undeniable.
By the way, German engineers have tried to give the driver intuitive Touareg promise: the car, naturally, can pass through the fields and forests, but also, without the need to move down from asphalt is not necessary. Interesting, After activation of "off-road" mode air suspension lifts the machine on a level of "1", instead of "2". The highest elevation Touareg should become conscious action of the driver, as it thought-provoking: and it is necessary for you? The same song - to disconnect stabilization system. A separate button on it is not provided - all through a screen multimedia system, despite the fact that the choice of "off-road" mode electronics, of course, should automatically disable stabilization. by the way, specifically, by this program, can be deduced from the maximum working ESC, only the traction control is turned off when all other modes. "Field" overweight Land Rover is set off by the fact, that our test unit was not equipped optional locking rear differential.
Shortly speaking, our little test showed, that despite the formal competitors belonging to the same class, properties and abilities they still different. Someone like have "passenger" maneuverability and low fuel consumption Touareg, someone - wide universal abilities Land Rover, the sum of indicators nominated "Englishman", in general, there is no — at least the last, if you keep in mind all the facets of an active operation. It's a pity, gasoline that we do not have such a cheap, as in the US - in terms of old strong ruble, of course…
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